Julia Orwell

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  If you think child abusers can simply repent and/or be rehabilitated....

  by iamwhoiam in

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  2. child-abuse

  ...then you need to educate yourself more.

  here is a good place to start.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iet3-kuvl5y.

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  Julia Orwell

  Gramme is the traditional spelling of gram for my American buddies. A gram is about 1/31 of an ounce. A 9 gram lead bullet to the brain is an effective form of execution.
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  ugh...now I'm getting mad

  by Angus Beef in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  venting.... hubby visited with sil (with gotee intact), got the wt don't approve speech and the 'we've been missing you at the meetings".. he gave all the excuses he could for why we weren't there.

  i'm at the point of just telling them the truth as why... but we will be giving up our grandchildren.

  i just don't know if i can do it, give up the grandkids.

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  Julia Orwell

  The wtbts is the master of evading the difficult questions. You have learned from them, so evade the hell out of them. Worked for me. Whenever the hounders came I'd talk about work, pets, family, ask about their families etc, and when they'd say, everyone miss you at the hall I'd just say, ' yeah well...' And move on, or say, "people at the hall know my address and have my phone number so if they miss me they know where to find me."

  Don't mention doubts or ttatt, especially if there are two of them. Evade anything they say to lead you into that sort of discussion. Don't answer the gb question. I refused to answer it so they couldn't do anything. When the term 'apostate' came to the lips of one hounder I told him I'd been christened Anglican so was an apostate Anglican. Evade in such ways. Eventually they'll get sick of you.
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  Private meetings banned??

  by franticfran in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just spoken to a brother who is part of a group of single brothers and sisters who meet together once a week to discuss bible topics and he has been told by and elder that the organisation "banned" these private meetings years ago.

  i told him i remember that article but he is adamant that the society would never do that (!

  ) now i am fairly sure i remember that article whether it was in a km or one of the mags i cant recall but i am sure i remember them saying we needed nothing more than the food that the slave class provided (another means to control us),does anyone have the details of that article because i have said i will find it and let him have it.

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  Julia Orwell

  That's probably the real reason they got rid of the book study: it was pretty much a private gathering where small groups could discuss the bible. I remember the book study as my favourite meeting because it was close to home and much more informal and relaxed. You could discuss things in that group of 10-15 people that wouldn't be discussed at the hall. This informal environment must have been a perceived threat to the Org.
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  If you think child abusers can simply repent and/or be rehabilitated....

  by iamwhoiam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ...then you need to educate yourself more.

  here is a good place to start.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iet3-kuvl5y.

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  Julia Orwell

  There is a cure: 9 grammes of lead to the brain.
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  Important scripture about the Faithful and Discreet Slave

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been mentioned here before that the governing body almost never mentions the verses in luke about the faithful and discreet slave.

  one reason is because the scriptures are more in detail but could this also be the real reason they don't mention these scriptures.. .

  luke 12:41new international version (niv).

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  Julia Orwell

  Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Of course I always figured it was a parable but there it is in black and white. Bet the Nwt doesn't translate it like that though.
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  The day the music died

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i commented about how the 2008 yearbook gives the story of a girl who is on estonia idol and gives up an opportunity to progress to further rounds because she has a talk on the theocratic ministry school.

  when jws started to study with her, that is the day the music died.. .

  while watching the grammys, though most was trash the music from the 70s was great, i thought, what if paul mccartney's parents studied with jws and paul didn't become a musician.

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  Julia Orwell

  Writers are the conscience of a nation- Solzhenitsyn. Unless said writer becomes a jw. Like I did. Imagine if Solzhenitsyn or George Orwell became jws.
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  Is it Humanly Possible, that the writers believe this stuff?

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, whom have been in the org for a while.. the wt is hard coded into your mind.

  sometimes, i will read a wt, to make sure that i hadn't imagined all of the ridiculousness... and then i read a wt like this : http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004168 (is linking to this legal?).

  i especially enjoyed this section : .

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  Julia Orwell

  Xanthippe you are so right. If we didnt get it, we thought we were stupid. Jw for beginners is so simple ie the idiotic doctrine in the bible teach book n other 'beginner' jw publications, but then once you're in it turns to that convoluted crap and then we go, " it's so simple but we must be dumb not to get it." Omg I am so #$@!@%& mad at that &@@#?+&!! Cult, taking 14 years of my life!!!!!!!
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  Is it Humanly Possible, that the writers believe this stuff?

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, whom have been in the org for a while.. the wt is hard coded into your mind.

  sometimes, i will read a wt, to make sure that i hadn't imagined all of the ridiculousness... and then i read a wt like this : http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004168 (is linking to this legal?).

  i especially enjoyed this section : .

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  Julia Orwell

  Most jws will only ever have a superficial understanding of all this. I'm an intelligent, educated person yet when I was a jw I only ever had a superficial understanding off all that stuff. It wasn't interesting to me or relevant to my life. Others are confused by it and don't worry about it, just keep obeying. Others it passes through undigested like a corn seed and they never realise what perversions of reality is being inflicted on them.
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  Interview with an apostate. Punkofnice AKA Paul Jackson

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i got married to another cult member and we have 3 children who are all grown up now.

  the 2 boys are not interested in the jw cult (thank goodness).

  when i left the disgusting cult my wife left me.. were you a born in or a convert?.

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  Julia Orwell

  Once again, love your style. I don't how your strong authenic persona coped with the jw rubbish for decades. I suspect you were depressed aid latently frustrated most of the time. Isn't it great to be able to speak as we find!
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  War over preparing for WT study

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.

  with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.

  anyway the situation is the following.

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  Julia Orwell

  Walk. Walk away. You owe him nothing. Don't let him treat you like that in your own home. Tell him so.